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ofonorow wrote:(I am still wondering about their reported puny vitamin A recommendation !?! Maybe that was a misprint in another post. How why would the world's strongest proponent of vitamin A recommend 1/10 of the RDA? Can anyone find the reference?)
ofonorow wrote:There used to be an article about vitamin D on Weston Price - it may have been part of the original Miracle of Vitamin D article - which described how they discovered vitamin D's strong anti-infection property. A wing of a hospital was being given vitamin for some study, when the flu hit the hospital. No one in the wing given vitamin D caught the flu. Trying to find that reference/article.
Lifeguards in the tropics can reach blood levels in the 50s and 60s naturally from sun exposure, suggesting these levels are “natural,” although lifeguards in Israel have twenty times the rate of kidney stones as the general population.
Kidney stones may be the most sensitive indicator of vitamin D toxicity and are a symptom of vitamin A and K2 deficiency. Thus, I suspect these levels are healthful in the context of a diet rich in vitamins A and K2, and if my levels were to reach this high in the summer sun while I was eating such a diet, I certainly would not worry.
But if you are trying desperately to maintain year-round 25(OH)D status between 50-80 ng/ mL using vitamin D supplements, you have entered the land of speculation. Enter at your own risk.
You're welcome!ofonorow wrote:Thank you for finding that article/link.
You may concur or not but his position is well thought. Excerpting from this newsletter:ofonorow wrote:
I respect Dr. Cannell and generally agree with him about vitamin D, but I do not understand his position against vitamin A, esp. since vitamin A is part of the overall bone package.
Well, I don't agree. I favor Dr. Cunane's aquatic ape hypothesis and it seems mussels have quite a dose of vitamin A.Dr. Cannell wrote:The idea that the human genome evolved eating liver is absurd. By the time humans could hunt large mammals, the genome had already evolved. Humans evolved eating a diet not dissimilar to the Great Apes: vegetables, fruit, roots, and some bugs.
I agree completely on this one though. Chris Masterjohn specifically is not balanced when talking about suppositions if they come from Weston A. Price (count the references he included about Price's hypothesis of coconut oil as sunscreen). Take a look to the double standards when addressing others suppositions like those from Dr. Heaney.Dr. Cannell wrote:I admired everyone I met at the Weston A. Price Foundation when I spoke there several years ago, mainly because of their commitment to healthy soil. However, when I brought up toxicity of cod liver oil, the atmosphere quickly turned from science to religion.
So ironic! Just the same could be said about gulping down cod liver oil!ofonorow wrote:
Vitamin A help remove old bone, as vitamins D, C, K help create new bone. Weton-Price points out that it is important to balance vitamin D and vitamin A intake.
Here is a Weston-Price article on vitamins A and D (and challenging Cannell).
http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/update-on-vitamins-a-and-d/Lifeguards in the tropics can reach blood levels in the 50s and 60s naturally from sun exposure, suggesting these levels are “natural,” although lifeguards in Israel have twenty times the rate of kidney stones as the general population.
Kidney stones may be the most sensitive indicator of vitamin D toxicity and are a symptom of vitamin A and K2 deficiency. Thus, I suspect these levels are healthful in the context of a diet rich in vitamins A and K2, and if my levels were to reach this high in the summer sun while I was eating such a diet, I certainly would not worry.
But if you are trying desperately to maintain year-round 25(OH)D status between 50-80 ng/ mL using vitamin D supplements, you have entered the land of speculation. Enter at your own risk.
Serdna wrote:We all have our biases. Mine is being an idealist. I don't buy that evolution did such a bad job that we may consider all of us ill because our livers don't make ascorbic acid. That does not prevent us to use gram doses of it when we see fit though. I even take 3g/day myself.
In the vitamin A matter I don't think we evolved gorging on cod liver oil or eating liver daily but we certainly evolved getting a lot of sun and eating somewhat lower dose preformed vitamin A sources.
skyorbit wrote:So, just a question.
How much vitamin E should one take, if they're taking 100 IU of vitamin A? What should that ratio be?
Tracy
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