ofonorow wrote:(I think I can identify vegetarians based on their generally pale skin tone, but maybe they coincidentally avoid the sun?)
(So you wouldn't recognize me as a vegetarian)
pamojja wrote:Anyone aware of studies in support of the claim: that a vegetarian wouldn't get enough of certain essiential amino-acids?
ofonorow wrote:I believe that vegetarians may risk deficiencies in other crucial nutrients which are plentiful in meats, such as carnitine and CoQ10.
Would be interresting to hear on what your believe is based: personal or second hand experience, inference, scientific studies, ...?
From my experience being a vegetarian for most of my life - for example with strenuous manual work to have the energy needed - already early on I had to use whole grains instead of white flour/rice products.
As it appears to me, the real dangerous issue with vegetarian vs. carnivorian diet seems to be with very low Vitamin B12 intake. In every other respect carnivorians are just as much at risk of deficiencies.
For example CoQ10 is found in meat upto 2.6 mg, but some seeds contain 2 mg too, and vegies upto 1 mg per 3 ounces of food.
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/o ... index.htmlHowever, if one ate as much meat as veggies today, there could be other health problems (due to widespread use of medication for allowing large scale industrial meat production).
A deficiency, for example in carnitine, could be caused by a number of reasons (Burgerstein's Handbook of Nutrition):
* much fatty food
* physiological stress: intensive body excercise, sickness and infections, trauma
* deficiency of the building blocks for the carnitine synthesis: Lysin, Methionin, Vitamin C, B6 and Niacin
* vegetarianism
ofonorow wrote:I believe that vegetarians ...
This can become important if on a cholesterol-lowering drug, as many health-seeking vegetarians have required a liver transplant, presumably because of the drug-induced CoQ10 deficiency that the diet did not make up for.
You seem to associate vegetarianism and cholesterol-lowering drugs to the effect of a depletion of CoQ10 requiring liver transplants?
On what is the believe that
'many health-seeking vegetarians have required a liver transplant ..' - any more than carnivorians - is based?
Kind regards..