Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

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Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

Post by Cobraman » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:04 am

Been aprox. 1 month taking Pauling therapy. Starting to have dull ache on left side of chest. No history of heart disease. Had high cholesterol 6 mo ago, 260, but started taking niacin and down to 185. My doctor doesn't do VAP. My question is can symptoms develop as a result of plaques wearing down, exposing the weak area of the vessel? I will be having this checked out this week.

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Re: Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

Post by Cobraman » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:01 am

Note: Feels like hiatal hernia. Prob. nothing, just covering all bases.

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Re: Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

Post by ofonorow » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:44 am

I believe johnwen is a cardiologist and I will ask Dr. Levy for his opinion. Johnwen?

The book you might want to explore is STOP AMERICA'S #1 KILLER (livonbooks.com) by Dr. Levy. It gave me an appreciation of how "complex" plaques form over the long term, (they can form their own capillaries, etc.) and if this is what is going on, that it will take some time to resolve. (The description reminded me of a tumor or callous, and resolving them will take time as a callous might be resolved on the skin.)

How much vitamin C are you taking? And do you know your upper bowel tolerance? When intake of vitamin C is increased, several enzyme systems are activated that Pauling said use up vitamin C, so paradoxically, increasing vitamin C might create a deficiency in the blood in some people. (This is the basis of the so called rebound effect).

The answer is to slowly increase your vitamin C intake to just under bowel tolerance (and if your tolerance is less than 1 gram you should consider a liposomal form, e.g. Lypo-C)

My recent "ache" in the general area turned out to be related to gall stones/gallbladder.
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Re: Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

Post by Cobraman » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:12 pm

Bowel tolerance was at about 10g, but it seems to be easier on my system now. I will reassess. Have been working out a fair amount lately and could have caused hiatal hernia, at least that is what it feels like(had one before). Thanks for the input.

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Re: Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

Post by Cobraman » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:09 am

Tests are normal so far. EKG normal sinus rhythm. No sign of left ventricle hypertrophy. They want to do a stress test due to family history of father having first heart attack at 46(I am 45). Will keep posted.

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Re: Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

Post by Johnwen » Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:06 pm

They want to do a stress test


Excellent advice!
Not to scare anyone!!! :lol:
I just sat through a presentation on ICD and the impact of Misfires on the patient. The thing that was kind of suprising was the statistics on Sudden Cardiac Death. At autopsy they found that 60% of the people had a MI some time prior to suddenly losing it all.
So "YES" if something just don't feel right or a sudden pain upon exertion or change of meds. or supps. it needs to be checked out asap.
Your on the right track! and as Owen said start low and work up from there, the results will be more rewarding.
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Re: Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

Post by Cobraman » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:22 am

Thanks for info. Stress test scheduled for 1/27/11. Will update.

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Re: Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

Post by Cobraman » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:45 am

Stress test results back. I have a stress induced ischemia at the apex of my heart(I believe they said right anterior). Nurse practioner wanted to order Heart catheterization, but I decided to speak to cardiologist first. Not knowing that much about it I need to do more research. As far as the pain in my chest I think it is unrelated because exertion doesn't make the pain occur, it occurs w/ a push down motion from my left arm. Am looking for any suggestions. Have been on Pauling therapy since mid December. If chest pain has anything to do w/ this perhaps the vitamin c made my pain receptors more vital, giving me this warning sign.

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Re: Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

Post by Johnwen » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:53 am

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Re: Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

Post by jknosplr » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:00 am

Johnwen, Owen

My question is can symptoms develop as a result of plaques wearing down, exposing the weak area of the vessel?


Is this plausible or does the fibrous cap stay in intact until the plaque build up underneath it is dissolved :?:

How does the VC protocol dissolve the plaque deposits without them rupturing :?:

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Re: Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

Post by Johnwen » Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:07 pm

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Re: Symptoms after starting Pauling Therapy

Post by Cobraman » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:31 pm

I understand what you are saying John, but it sure does seem strange that this pain occurred a short time after starting Pauling therapy. Though admittedly a remote chance I wonder if something broke free causing a partial blockage. If anginal pain can be reduced in a short time from breakdown of plaque why not this. I am going to have tests done, but haven't decided on which ones. Will be discussing this with an osteopath that I respect before I see the cardiologist. Thank you very much for your input.


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