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 Pain During IVC 
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Ascorbate Wizard
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Post Pain During IVC
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Dear doctor, I was refered to you by the Vitamin C foundation. . My question to you is this: what is the proper ph for a vitamin c infusion? My experience in New York has never caused it to burn unduly even at 60grams and above. In my current situation I am presently in New Mexico where treatment here is just as expensive but lacking in practice and knowledge as compared to NY. Would it be in your opinon to not attempt a vitamin c infusion by myself since my options are few and I am not able to manage a current return to NY at present. Thank you,
C.C.


I told him that only sodium ascorbate should be used IV, not ascorbic acid. And I also recommended that he view the Cathcart IVC Preperation video at http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/videos

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Thank you for your reply, I have watched the video you describe and thought he had mentioned a consistent ph of 7.4 when preparing the iv's. However what I am experiencing is burning at 25Grams, 40 grams, and 60grams. I was getting iv's for over 10 years and this is not within my experience. I am told their clinic formula is between 5.5-7.0 ph. Could you give me any ideas why this is happening and if it is just necessary to measure the iv ph if they cannot resolve my difficulty. Thank you,
C


Again, I asked him to verify that he was using sodium ascorbate and wondered if anything new has been added to the drip.

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Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:09 am
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Post This from the World Expert - Robert Cathcart
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When I make up sodium ascorbate solutions it has a pH of 7.4. Acording to Klenner's wife, his IVs were the same. The comercially prepared solutions do have a slightly lower pH and that could be the problem, however, it is also frequently all the other stuff put in the IVs.

Bob Cathcart

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Owen R. Fonorow, Orthomolecular Naturopath


Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:14 am
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Just to catch up, yes it was acorbic acid this particular clinic was using in their IVS. Believe it or not it took 2 weeks to find this out and they maintain that they are following protocol although who's I do not know. I would love to post the name of the clinic here but it would compromise other patients attending there. :)


Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:35 pm
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Post I believe it - have they changed!?????!??
C.C. wrote:
Just to catch up, yes it was acorbic acid this particular clinic was using in their IVS. Believe it or not it took 2 weeks to find this out and they maintain that they are following protocol although who's I do not know. I would love to post the name of the clinic here but it would compromise other patients attending there. :)



Dr. Cathcart mentions that he gets calls all the time, and that most of the problems are like this, people who don't know it must be sodium ascorbate IV. I hope this doctor has learned their lesson. Let us know if they now change to sodium ascorbate. If not, yes, we'll post their names.

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Owen R. Fonorow, Orthomolecular Naturopath


Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:18 am
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A small number of people have some pain even with Na-ascorbate. But a little bit of procain in the bag solves that problem..."just a little bit of procain helps the medicine go in." with apologies to Mary Poppins


Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:40 pm
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