My only experience to date has been with my daughter who developed cold-like symptoms and 4 packets of Lypo Spheric Vitamin C within about 2-3 hours promptly resolved the infection in its initial stages.
The little girl's experience has been exactly what I have already seen repeatedly.
However, the lypo GSH could never be a placebo. It accelerates the resolution process for acute infections and intoxications incredibly rapidly. Packet for packet, I have found to lypo GSH to have even more impact than the lypo C. Lecithin would not be a great placebo, either, since it is a very good supplement as well. But the lecithin would be best to represent what the lypo C looked like and tasted like. I will copy Mr. Les Nachman on this response.
ofonorow wrote: we might estimate that Lypo-C was roughly equivalent to 36000/4 or 9000 mg of ordinary vitamin C, which is remarkably close to Dr. Levy's estimate of 1 Lypo = 10 grams regular vitamin C.
Im a little new to lypo-C. When you estimate 1g Lypo = 10g Vit C, do you mean 10g IV Vit C?
Also, if you take, say, 20g Vit C by mouth, and 10g ends up getting absorbed in the end, is that equivalent to 10g IV Vit C? Or are there some other mediating factors along the way?
owen wrote:assuming a 50% loss in the gut.
However, only sodium ascorbate can be used IV, which has 50% of the power of ascorbic acid, according to Cathcart.
However, only sodium ascorbate can be used IV, which has 50% of the power of ascorbic acid, according to Cathcart.This is theoretical and Cathcart might have got this wrong. Until there is more evidence about it, I wouldn't use this in calculation.
"...it was not entirely clear that the dramatic effects are always with ascorbic acid orally and sodium ascorbate intravenously. I have not been able to achieve the ascorbate effect with mineral ascorbates orally. Mineral ascorbates are fine forms of vitamin C but when you are really sick, the mitochondria are failing in their refueling of the free radical scavengers with electrons. The ascorbic acid carries 2 extra electrons per molecule where the mineral ascorbates seem to carry only one (plus per molecule the mineral ascorbates are heavier due to the mineral weighing more than the hydrogen the mineral replaces). So the mineral ascorbates are not potent enough to accomplish the ascorbate effect. There may be other reasons that we do not appreciate additionally." Robert Cathcart, III, MD
I think that only about 1/5 of the ascorbic acid we take by mouth ever gets into the body, whereas 100% that we give by vein gets in. So therefore, even if the sodium ascorbate is half as strong, that means that perhaps 5 times as much gets into the body, which means the IV is about 2.5 times stronger which is about right; that has been my experience. Intravenous ascorbate is about 2 ½ times more powerful as oral ascorbic acid.
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