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Post Number:#1  Post by zarfas » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:57 am

I am always mentioning the peroxide - cancer killing mechanism. However, this also mentions a glucose pathway improvement. (Cancer cells thrive on glucose.)

"Intravenous vitamin C given to patients with lung cancer nearly doubled the shrinking of their tumors after chemo.

Around 93% of the people receiving the intravenous vitamin C are responding to chemotherapy and radiation, compared to 40% who usually do. The intravenous vitamin C may also show encouraging results in a small sample of people with glioblastoma. Remember that oral doses of vitamin C (even liposomal) can not achieve the same plasma concentrations that IVC can, which are between 800 to 1,000-fold higher. Other studies have revealed mechanisms by which the IVC works including the production of hydrogen peroxide which selectively kills cancer cells. Normal cells can detoxify the hydrogen peroxide but cancer cells cannot. The IVC also inhibits glucose from being taking up into the cancer cells since it competes for binding to glucose transporters. The multitude of both animal studies and clinical studies on intravenous vitamin C seem like it may be a very promising cancer treatment particularly with the standard of care treatment. I look forward to seeing the results of larger trials."

https://www.foundmyfitness.com/news/s/t ... fter_chemo

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Post Number:#2  Post by OxC » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:25 am

zarfas wrote:I am always mentioning the peroxide - cancer killing mechanism. However, this also mentions a glucose pathway improvement. (Cancer cells thrive on glucose.)..."The IVC also inhibits glucose from being taking up into the cancer cells since it competes for binding to glucose transporters."

Some evidence indicates that the DHAA created by in vivo oxidation of IVC not only competes with glucose, but also has metabolic effects that inhibit the utilization of glucose by the cancer cells. This may also make the cancer cells more susceptible to the peroxide created when the IVC is oxidized. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26541605
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Post Number:#3  Post by zarfas » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:17 pm

OxC wrote:
zarfas wrote:I am always mentioning the peroxide - cancer killing mechanism. However, this also mentions a glucose pathway improvement. (Cancer cells thrive on glucose.)..."The IVC also inhibits glucose from being taking up into the cancer cells since it competes for binding to glucose transporters."

Some evidence indicates that the DHAA created by in vivo oxidation of IVC not only competes with glucose, but also has metabolic effects that inhibit the utilization of glucose by the cancer cells. This may also make the cancer cells more susceptible to the peroxide created when the IVC is oxidized. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26541605



right, but do I need IV-C to fight cancer?
oral AA won't do it?
what about Lyphosheric AA?
Maybe fasting?

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Post Number:#4  Post by OxC » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:01 pm

zarfas wrote:right, but do I need IV-C to fight cancer?
oral AA won't do it?
what about Lyphosheric AA?
Maybe fasting?

Depending on which of the only two studies on liposomal vitamin C bioavailability you want to believe, lipo-C either doesn't raise blood levels any higher than plain old oral AA http://www.livonlabs.com/proof/Dr_Hicke ... lished.pdf or it raises plasma levels slightly higher (at least in a group of 11 obese people over middle-age) http://www.moderneranaturals.com/wp-con ... mal-AA.pdf
As you can see in Fig. 2A of the second article, neither oral AA nor lipo-C can raise plasma levels anything like IVC can. According to this study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17502596 peroxide and ascorbate radical (precursor to DHAA) could only be detected in extracellular fluid when vitamin C was administered parenterally (intravenously or intraperitoneally). The general consensus is you need IV-C to fight cancer.
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Re: cancer?

Post Number:#5  Post by zarfas » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:43 pm

OxC wrote: The general consensus is you need IV-C to fight cancer.


thanks for being so thorough!

I need to find a place to get IV-C, I dont have cancer, but IV-C can't hurt, eh? I take 10+ grams/day now


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