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Post Here we go again - vits C/E "useless" for eye disorder
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/03/us-vitamins-vision-disorder-idUSBRE8420M320120503

I'll post this before reading/commenting.

I cannot wait to see the REAL study that is about to appear!

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Thu May 03, 2012 2:55 am
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Post Re: Here we go again - vits C/E "useless" for eye disorder
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along with a daily dose of either 500 milligrams of vitamin C or a placebo.


Like smelling the cork of a wine bottle without tasting it.

500 mg. as WC used to say "I spill more then that!"

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Thu May 03, 2012 3:02 am
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Post Re: Here we go again - vits C/E "useless" for eye disorder
I wonder if THIS January 2012 study published by the Journal of the National Cancer Institute *IS* the threat these other stories/psuedo-studies are working to debunk?

http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/104/6/488.long

I'd love to read the entire study (requires membership) because the abstract is obtuse, to say the least.

According to reporters who have seen the study,


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Thursday March 15, 2012 (foodconsumer.org) -- Taking vitamin C, E and selenium may help drastically reduce risk of death from gastric cancer (stomach cancer) and esophageal cancer, according to a study published in the Jan 2012 issue of Journal of the National Cancer Institute.

The study led by Jun-Ling Ma and colleagues found that those gastric cancer or esophageal cancer patients who took vitamin C, E and antioxidative selenium supplements during a 15-year study were 50 percent less likely to die from the cancers.

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Nutrition/Vitamins/vitamin_c_e_supplements_0315120825.html

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Fri May 04, 2012 2:17 am
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Post Re: Here we go again - vits C/E "useless" for eye disorder
First here's a list of open studies on V-C.

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?r ... id%22&pg=1

Now we have to look at Big Pharma's Cash Cow's and what could cut into the profits.
1. Statins 2. BP Meds.
Statins we know are losing their patent status and Pharma is already in Phase 3 studies on
augmenting drugs when taken with statins convert LDL into HDL.
BP Meds every one makes them and just about everyone takes them. Were talking BIG$$$
Now along comes a study released in 2012 that say's High doses of V-C lowers BP.
The study hasn't been posted anywhere yet but if you do a search with, "Vitamin C Blood pressure." you'll see just about every med journal is reporting it. It's like a call for Big Pharma to bring out the Big Guns aganinst that nasty Vitamin C.
My bet is this is whats causing the stir!!
The stomach cancer V-C study was first released in 2002.
That was the omeprazole battle against V-C back then.
Sample:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 111810.htm

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Post Re: Here we go again - vits C/E "useless" for eye disorder
I like your logic - and the word "stir."

If that study was run/came out in 2002 - why publish it now, ten years later, in the Nat. Cancer Institutes journal?

I think they both could be causing the current stir.

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