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Again, without oxygen, you won't have energy.

Hemoglobin in red blood cells carry oxygen to your cells. Each HG molecule can carry 4 oxygen molecules

If mercury occupies 1, 2, 3, or 4 positions in your HG, you won't have enough energy, no matter what supplements you are taking.

It might not be mercury poisoning, this is simply a guess based on the description of your symptoms. Yes, the protocl works for most people, if it isn't working for you, then something is interfering with your production of energy (from ATP) in the mitochondria of cells. If not mercury, then perhaps a lack of CoQ10? (Many prescription drugs can have the same effect by interferring with your own production of CoQ10.).

Are you losing hair?

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Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:29 am
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Again, without oxygen, you won't have energy.

Hemoglobin in red blood cells carry oxygen to your cells. Each HG molecule can carry 4 oxygen molecules

If mercury occupies 1, 2, 3, or 4 positions in your HG, you won't have enough energy, no matter what supplements you are taking.

It might not be mercury poisoning, this is simply a guess based on the description of your symptoms. Yes, the protocl works for most people, if it isn't working for you, then something is interfering with your production of energy (from ATP) in the mitochondria of cells. If not mercury, then perhaps a lack of CoQ10? (Many prescription drugs can have the same effect by interferring with your own production of CoQ10.).

Are you losing hair?



Thank goodness, no hair loss at all. In fact, I have a mop on my head :)

I have been taking 200 mg C0Q10 for 4 months now. I'm taking aspirin and plaviq for now.

How can I increase my oxygen in the blood? I'm alway slightheaded too.


Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:10 pm
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Dr. Zitterman points to a study conducted in Japan where adequate vitamin D levels achieved via supplementation reduced the death risk from cardiovascular disease by 70% compared to those who did not use vitamin D supplements. [Current Opinion Lipidology 18: 41-46, Feb. 2007]
http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi70.html

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Dr. Zitterman points to a study conducted in Japan where adequate vitamin D levels achieved via supplementation reduced the death risk from cardiovascular disease by 70% compared to those who did not use vitamin D supplements. [Current Opinion Lipidology 18: 41-46, Feb. 2007]
http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi70.html



Why is it "No" on the Red Yeast rice? What are the negatives?

What suggestions on the Vitamin D increase?


Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:14 pm
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Post I'm up to 24 Grams of Vitamin C as of today
Woo, this is not easy.


Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:17 pm
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Jon,

Red Yeast Rice is essentially a natural "statin" medicine. So, some of the same side-effects that are associated with the statins (Zocor, Lipitor, etc.) may also apply to RYR (though the side-effects appear to be less common perhaps).

At the bare-minimum, if you do decide to use RYR, make sure to also supplement with CoQ10 as well. Statin medications appear to lower CoQ10 levels (which is a risk-factor for heart disease as well).


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But Reinhold Vieth PhD, researcher at the University of Toronto, notes that blood levels don’t even measurably rise till 4000 IU (100 micrograms) is consumed and toxicity begins at 40,000 IU (1000 micrograms or 1 milligram) only after many weeks of use.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi70.html

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THE HIDDEN ORIGIN OF STATIN DRUGS
Shane Ellison

No one would care to look twice – or even once – at the origin of statin drugs. Except, perhaps, if you needed one more reason not to use them or were an FDA-approved drug addict looking for an inexpensive alternative.

The origin of statin drugs is not a testament to the ingenuity and innovation of drug companies. Despite enjoying an unprecedented surge of momentum in popularity, statins are nothing more than an isolated poison derived from the fungus known as red yeast rice (Monascus purpurus).[1]

http://www.newswithviews.com/Ellison/shane16.htm

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Post This is a real eye opener in regards to cholesterol
They even discuss Linus Pauling.


http://thincs.org/index.htm


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I just reread this thread and I am wondering about your status?

In the beginning, you were hesitant to stop the red yeast rice (statin) and you said you could not afford to rid your mouth of your mercury fillings.

I think that if you are still not experiencing a positive response, you should make a series of small changes, and keep track of how you feel. The first thing you should definitely do is stop the Red Yeast Rice, and let us know what happens.

The trick is not to worry about your cholesterol.

Think of elevated cholesterol in the same way that you might think about the mucous your body produces in the sinus in reaction to an allergen or virus. The mucous creates symptoms, such as a cough and sore throat. You cough the mucous out.

Now, if medicine reduces the amount of mucous with an antihistamine, have they cured the virus?

No. (They have probably done the opposite. They have interferred with the body's natural defense mechanism against these critters.)

So artificially lowering your cholesterol, does nothing to resolve the reason the cholesterol was elevated in the first place. After the heart disease problem is resolved, your body will naturally make less cholesterol.

It is an indicator of a problem. You need to resolve the problem - chronic scurvy.

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ofonorow wrote:
I just reread this thread and I am wondering about your status?

In the beginning, you were hesitant to stop the red yeast rice (statin) and you said you could not afford to rid your mouth of your mercury fillings.

I think that if you are still not experiencing a positive response, you should make a series of small changes, and keep track of how you feel. The first thing you should definitely do is stop the Red Yeast Rice, and let us know what happens.

The trick is not to worry about your cholesterol.

Think of elevated cholesterol in the same way that you might think about the mucous your body produces in the sinus in reaction to an allergen or virus. The mucous creates symptoms, such as a cough and sore throat. You cough the mucous out.

Now, if medicine reduces the amount of mucous with an antihistamine, have they cured the virus?

No. (They have probably done the opposite. They have interferred with the body's natural defense mechanism against these critters.)

So artificially lowering your cholesterol, does nothing to resolve the reason the cholesterol was elevated in the first place. After the heart disease problem is resolved, your body will naturally make less cholesterol.

It is an indicator of a problem. You need to resolve the problem - chronic scurvy.










I've stopped taking the red yeast rice for roughly 3 weeks now, I'm still taking 24 grams of Vitamin C, 6 grams of Lysine, and 2 grams of Proline, 200 mg of COQ10, 99 mg of potassium, 3 capsules of Natural Vitamin E, along with my 320 mg aspiring and 40 mg of plavix daily.

I will be honest with you, I've been on the protocol since February 25th, 2007 of this year that is roughly almost 7 months, I DO NOT feel the chest tightness problem going away, in fact it seems to be more pronounced, and my legs feel heavy and I feel tired all the time. I also became a vegetarian 1.5 months ago, which is one of the reasons why I stopped taking the red yeast rice, as I'm no eating any animal fats.

I don't know what to say, but I have been very religious with following this protocol, but I have not noticed any improvement, to this point I'm hoping that maybe the Vitamin C itself has worked and maybe the side effects is that it is creating acid reflux or some kind of gas build up that is causing my sternum and chest area to feel constricted.


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First, I like the protocol. I would add magnesium, but I think you should persist.

I don't like either aspirin or the plavix. The same functions can be had with a high quality Omega-3 oil, such as fish oil, without risk of side effects.

You report the symptomology getting worse, but do we have any objective measures? Blood pressure, cholesterol or better yet, Lp(a)? Is your skin coloring worse? Are there any other symptoms that are getting worse?

And you are correct that "tightness" might be causes by something other than occluded arteries.

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First, I like the protocol. I would add magnesium, but I think you should persist.

I don't like either aspirin or the plavix. The same functions can be had with a high quality Omega-3 oil, such as fish oil, without risk of side effects.

You report the symptomology getting worse, but do we have any objective measures? Blood pressure, cholesterol or better yet, Lp(a)? Is your skin coloring worse? Are there any other symptoms that are getting worse?

And you are correct that "tightness" might be causes by something other than occluded arteries.



I forgot to mention that I do take 1 to 2 teaspoons of Natural Calm Magnesium every 3rd day, but I've been consistent with that, as I was taking 2 teaspoons a day for months, no improvement.

I will be off of plavix in December.

My blood pressure is good when I'm not stressed over this, but it has run as low as 120/70 57 bpm, and as high as 150/99 80 bpm when I'm not feeling well or when my chest gets tight.

I also feel my legs feel like lead weights.

Cholesterol I will get tested next Friday morning. My skin coloring looks fine.

As for any other symptoms, I get lower back pain, pressure in the head, tiredness, heaviness in the legs, and chest tightness that are prevailent, I have been lightheaded, but that goes randomly throughout the day as well.

A predicator for this was symptoms relieving themselves, but I have not yet experienced any of that.

What else is there?

I do have reflux and an small ulcer, but I have had numerous tests on the gastro side, my doctor said there is nothing he can find such as a hiatial hernia or something else that could be causing my chest tightness, and that was a huge medical work up.


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My blood pressure is good when I'm not stressed over this, but it has run as low as 120/70 57 bpm, and as high as 150/99 80 bpm when I'm not feeling well or when my chest gets tight.

I also feel my legs feel like lead weights.

Cholesterol I will get tested next Friday morning. My skin coloring looks fine.

As for any other symptoms, I get lower back pain, pressure in the head, tiredness, heaviness in the legs, and chest tightness that are prevailent, I have been lightheaded, but that goes randomly throughout the day as well.

I do have reflux



The fact that your blood pressure is low when not under stress is a good sign that your major arterial walls are NOT occluded.

How are they treating your reflux/ulcer?

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My blood pressure is good when I'm not stressed over this, but it has run as low as 120/70 57 bpm, and as high as 150/99 80 bpm when I'm not feeling well or when my chest gets tight.

I also feel my legs feel like lead weights.

Cholesterol I will get tested next Friday morning. My skin coloring looks fine.

As for any other symptoms, I get lower back pain, pressure in the head, tiredness, heaviness in the legs, and chest tightness that are prevailent, I have been lightheaded, but that goes randomly throughout the day as well.

I do have reflux



The fact that your blood pressure is low when not under stress is a good sign that your major arterial walls are NOT occluded.

How are they treating your reflux/ulcer?




I have had esophageal monometry test, normal results. I have had 2 endoscopy's where the 2nd after 2 years found the ulcer. They say I don't have a hiatial hernia, after I was told by a natural practitioner that I did (he has been wrong a lot with other nutritional supplements I have tried on his recommendation to unblock the arteries, reason I say this is because I had the 2 other angioplasties after taking his supplements religiously).

I have been prescribed and tried the various anti-acid medications, even the purple pill (nexium). All with negative results. In fact, I felt more nauseous taking that stuff.

I take the Natural Calm magnesium once every other day, because when I was taking it every day it seemed to irritate my sternum, weird to say but it seems to aggravate my chest tightness even when trying to fall asleep at night.

I have been taking slippery elm powder with water, it is suppose to heal your digestive tract, an deglyzzerized licorice tablets, but due to my consumption of the Vitamin C, Lysine and Proline protocol sometimes I do not have enough time in the day to take the slippery elm because it's so late and if were to take it right after the protocol it might soak all the nutrients up and cause it not to be effective.

Yesterday, I went to deliver a dryer along with my son and we had to help carry it up a single flight of stairs, during that time I was exerting myself I could feel the chest tightness onset, it took literally 30 minutes for that chest tightness sensation to ease off, but only slightly.

I really want to work out and do some time of more strenuous aerobic activity, but my body has not been cooperative.

It's been 3.25 years now since this all started. It's very frustrating.


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