Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

The discussion of the Linus Pauling vitamin C/lysine invention for chronic scurvy

Moderator: ofonorow

ofonorow
Ascorbate Wizard
Ascorbate Wizard
Posts: 15822
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:16 pm
Location: Lisle, IL
Contact:

Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#1  Post by ofonorow » Mon May 23, 2011 7:19 am

I am very impressed with your cardio c content. I am an herbalist in a small town in Arkansas. As a disabled combat veteran I can say honestly, without herbs I'd already be dead.

You product is very interesting to me largely because I have developed heart conditions with a 100% blocked artery. I'm going to be my own Guinea Pig,sort of betting my life on the Pauling protocol. If it works and I feel it will, next stop finding a source for the right mixture without taking 50 pills a day at a price that I can make money on. I spend a lot of time with my customer and the mark up on herbs is so little its barely worth my time. I have stopped taking new customers until I got heart problems, then reading Paulings accounts....a light went on, this could be life saver and PROFI TABLE too....and it works fast, no waiting months to see any results like with herbs.

My regular doctor is also monitoring me and we have agreed that if this works, he'll purchase from me whatever I recommend for his heart patients. My Heart Doctor thinks it is all Voodoo, no surprise there.

My area is a poor area, few have insurance, most couldn't afford prescriptions. Its also in part a retirement area with a large elderly home. I plan to give a talk there when I can prove concrete evidence from personal experi ence that we can reverse heart disease...that will be a gold mine.

Thank you for your time, and do you offer any literature I could read, buy to pass out later.

Tom


Advised him to find bulk vitamin C and lysine and offer that to his customers.

Thank you. I'm having trouble finding the L-Lysine in bulk. The C is easy, I'm going to include Sodium Ascorbate for the mega dose protocol. Its easier on the stomach for people like me. I see a gold mine here for everyone involved. I have two doctors very interested in a program to help those they'd previously given up on. I have the right artery 100% clogged. I don't feel angina due to a wound channel across my chest from a bullet many years ago. I don't get "warnings" when I feel the heart pain I'm already in a full blown heart attack.

I would like ONE sourse to buy my Vitamin C and Lysine. My current "balls to the wall" approach to opening up this artery includes 16 heart medications, amino acids and herbs. No stone unturned.

If I survive and the artery opens, then I have with 100% certainty found a way to reverse heart disease...not just something I heard. Big difference from hearing about something and experiencing it.

Heart Disease is a $350 billion dollar a year cash cow. Statin drugs are dangerous and have proven to be less effective than the herbal alternative Policosanol from bees wax and sugar cane in 3000 studies....none of the serious side effects or costs of statin drugs. Statins are a cash cow for the dr
ug companies....a nightmare for the patient.

I'm going to use your product for the initial dosage, but suppliment it with Sodium Ascorbate for the added ultra high dosages. Everything in one powder would be horrible expensive, and reserved for those sent home to die andwouldn't mind paying for something that could literally save them from death within a few weeks. The side effect would be that in addition to the heart it also fights cancer.

Thank you for your response. Its nice to see that SOMEONE is trying NOT to buy crap from China just because it cheaper.

I think we have a willing market, that is tired of being ripped off by the drug companies with drugs that cause more harm than good.

Your product will be at the core of my final "package of heart saving herbal powder mix". I'm still putting it all together, but Cardio-C will make anaffordable base for the total product in the end.

Thank you again

Tom


I think I agree with most of your points! I worry about those "15 heart medications" you mentioned
though.

If you really have a 100% blockage, it is our experience that these rarely open as you require blood flow to "dissolve" the plaques and restore vitamin C to the tissues. Pardon my memory, did you say you already had a heart bypass? A CABG maybe a good/best treatment with a 100% blockage.
Owen R. Fonorow
HeartCURE.Info
American Scientist's Invention Could Prevent 350,000 Heart Bypass Operations a year

ofonorow
Ascorbate Wizard
Ascorbate Wizard
Posts: 15822
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:16 pm
Location: Lisle, IL
Contact:

Re: Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#2  Post by ofonorow » Mon May 23, 2011 7:29 am

18 total..... 3 prescriptions, 15 alternative natural medications. EDTA, colostrum, hawthorn berry, Commopheria Mukul, Malic acid, L-citrulline, Antarctic Krill for Omega 3, psyllium husks, Niacin 2000 mgs non flushing, D-3, its a long list. I pulled out all the stops. I replaced Pravastain with policosanol, proven in 3000 test surveys to be as good or better than the usual Statin drugs, w/no side effects. I don't believe that cholesteral causes MI's, however if I am going to prove my point to the heart doctors then I need for it to be normal or a little below, say 125, its 167 now.

I'm thinking too (like you) that without blood flow to wash away the plaque its going to stay clogged. However with exercise to put a strain on the heart forcing it to look for alternative source of blood flow, maybe I can speed up the collateral veins flow to make up the difference. They did an Electrocardiogram and said my Heart Functions were normal, rhythm normal.

None of that makes sense to me considering what they 'say" is wrong. They also want me to come in every 6 months to have my arteries opened up as I can;t feel angina due to an old wound channel across my chest.

My Heart Doctor sucks....They didn't even tell me my Rt. artery was 100% clogged for a month after the procedure. I'm getting a 2nd opinion on the whole mess.

I can't believe that within a year I went from all arteries open and clear after two more stents.... to 80%, 70% and 100% with no symptoms and normal cholesterol.... until I had the MI. Now after everything I feel worse with 2 arteries open than I did with them clogged. I went from no symptoms no s hortness of breath, no dizziness to...heart attack, two arteries opened up and I feel like crap now.

I believe in the absence of formal medical training....logic is a good 2nd place. If Vit C will keep the "open" arteries open, and I force the heart to "need" more blood flow, then it stands to reason it will speed up using collateral veins to do the job...."logic"

I'm betting a lot that your product will turn this around for me in time. My other herbs and amino acids are just hedging my bet...LOL It should be fun to see how all this works out. I just need a couple of the minor veins to get bigger and boost the flow, seems doable to me.

Tom


This is the first time you mentioned stents - heart procedures. (The restenois rate is high. Are they medicated stents??)

Okay, I feel better about your "18 heart medications"! As far as the cholesterol - I like Mike Ciell's
(a pharmacist) analogy in the following article. Think of cholesterol molecules as firemen who come to fight the fire.

http://www.ourhealthcoop.com/pdf/MikeCiell_unified_theory.pdf

As he explains cause and effect, a child might see all the firemen and conclude they caused the fire, etc. The point is that lowering cholesterol definitely benefits medicine and cardiology, but it is questionable whether reducing the firemen fighting the fire jut to make your doctor happy makes sense for the patient. (The firemen will leave on their own after the fire is out. Vitamin C will help put the fire out!)

You are right that the explanation of what is going on makes little sense. I'll start a thread at our forum and perhaps others will have a better idea what your doctors are talking about.

There is probably some risk from the interaction of everything that you are taking. Pauling specifically recommended vitamin C and the amino acid lysine. I would focus on this protocol at the highest dose of vitamin C you can tolerate.
Owen R. Fonorow
HeartCURE.Info
American Scientist's Invention Could Prevent 350,000 Heart Bypass Operations a year

Johnwen
Ascorbate Wizard
Ascorbate Wizard
Posts: 2152
Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:27 pm
Contact:

Re: Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#3  Post by Johnwen » Sat May 28, 2011 7:56 pm

I still have a problem with 100% blockages! Especially in the RCX It's possible it's blocked near the beginning of the artery and someone either from the wound or something from birth has what is known as a Coneal bypass which is feeding the RCX from the LCX but they should have picked that up with the angiogram. I'll say it again at 80% or greater you have big problems.
At a 100% blood is completely stopped and tissue is dying and your not far behind. Especially in a major coronary artey. Although Colaterals have been known to start with as little as 40% blockage. Documented some started At 0%.
The No flush niacian (Inositol Hexanicotinate) is worthless and should be replaced with Regular Niacin!
Why don't he just buy Heart Tech/Cardio-Aid etc. from the foundation in bulk he'd probably pay less then trying to buy smaller quantities of individual components and putting it all together :?:
He would also have assured dosages.
Other then not taking the basic aminio's and C as in the HT I don't see any problems and I take policosonol myself don't know if does any good but my Big Pharma Levels I mean lipids are fine.
To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is
research!

freeform

Re: Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#4  Post by freeform » Sun May 29, 2011 8:34 am

From a plumbing and heating engineers view - I view it all as plumbing! Isn't it time to call out the plumber? Free up the blockages before the boiler packs up and administer the limescale remover when the boiler's out of immediate danger?

ofonorow
Ascorbate Wizard
Ascorbate Wizard
Posts: 15822
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:16 pm
Location: Lisle, IL
Contact:

Re: Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#5  Post by ofonorow » Sun May 29, 2011 9:35 am


Thank you so much for your reply. I have the feeling that there is some CYA involved with my heart doctor. I had no symptoms before my MI this time. No shortness of breath, no dizziness upon standing...nothing. I had two stents done a year ago January in April I had an achillis tendon repaired and was put on Coumadin and Plavix. In February this year I had a hip replacement and again put on blood thinners...

One would think that would prevent arteries from clogging. Apparently not so, as I had my heart attack on May 8th and all three arteries were clogged 70% 80% and the Right one 100%. It took 59 years for my first heart attack and 5 stents. Then 4 years later I had two more stents, then only a year from then I had my 2nd MI and two more clogs removed only the one was 100% now and they said they couldn't do anything.

They kept me in the hospital from Friday to Monday when they did the procedure and fixed two clogged arteries leaving the 3rd alone as it was 100%. I was discharged Monday afternoon. Whats weird is before I had the MI, I felt fine, but now after they "supposedly" restored blood flow to two out of three cloged arteries...I have no energy, dizzy upon standing, chest feels weird at even modest exertions, never had this before.

Now using Pauling protocol for a month...I keep having to reduce my heart medication dosages...I woke up it was 155/110 I took 120mgs of Diltiazem and 25mgs of Losartan (to protect my kidneys from diabetes). Within 2 hours my BP dropped to 90/61 shortly the little energy I have will leave.

What are the chances that they nicked the wall or screwed up the placement some how in the Rt artery causing the clog to go to 100%? Its the only explanation that makes sense, no symptoms then arteries unclogged and now I have problems. It doesn't make sense that out of the blue after a procedure that was supposed to help me, now causes me all these problems.

They kept me in the hospital because my enzyme level was so closed to normal that they didn't know for sure if I actually did have a heart attack. it was only on my follow up visit that I was told I did have a heart attack...but I was never told anything until 3 weeks after my discharge.

Any thoughts


Tom Thornburg



Yes things are curiouser and curiouser as you provide more information. The bad news is that while stents can provide temporary relief and seem "logical", they can actually "irritate" the arterial tissue, which leads to rapid restenois (re narrowing) of the coronary arteries. (To avoid this problem, they began adding poisons (medicated stents) to try and kill the cells that would produce the plaque. Really a nightmare in my opinion.)

It sounds like things might be turning your way (drop in blood pressure) but it is hard to tell - you say your energy burst doesn't last?

Are you also taking Coenzyme Q10 (w/meals (fats)) as one of your 18 heart medications?
Owen R. Fonorow
HeartCURE.Info
American Scientist's Invention Could Prevent 350,000 Heart Bypass Operations a year

Johnwen
Ascorbate Wizard
Ascorbate Wizard
Posts: 2152
Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:27 pm
Contact:

Re: Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#6  Post by Johnwen » Sun May 29, 2011 12:43 pm

Whats weird is before I had the MI, I felt fine,


So do about 99.9% of the people who have MI's :D

my enzyme level was so closed to normal that they didn't know for sure if I actually did have a heart attack.


If there is necrotized tissue already present there will be only a minor rise. ie.Troponin levels

(to protect my kidneys from diabetes).


Does he have Diabetes??
[if YES]
What type?
Has he had a insulin level & CRP test done (Not Glucose level!!!)?
To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is
research!

scottbushey
Enthusiast
Enthusiast
Posts: 189
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:43 pm
Contact:

Re: Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#7  Post by scottbushey » Sun May 29, 2011 7:56 pm

Logic would tell you that the RCX must have collateral feeds or this guy would have been in for a bypass. As a cath nurse I have seen arteries completely close off during a procedure-this can be verified if you can get the disc of the procedure prior to them telling you that the RCA was 100%.

ofonorow
Ascorbate Wizard
Ascorbate Wizard
Posts: 15822
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:16 pm
Location: Lisle, IL
Contact:

Re: Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#8  Post by ofonorow » Mon May 30, 2011 5:01 pm



Hard to tell, I take 5 10 mgs of Oxycoden every morning to get the pain under control so I can move around. But the relief lasts beyond the time frame of the pain meds. I got off to a bad start with the Vit C as the label read 4 capsules make 1000mgs. I wasn't getting the real therapeuticdosage until I got Cardio C. I supplement it with Sodium Ascorbate 1 tsp to get 4000 mgs along with 2 scoops of your Cardio C w/ 1/4 tsp of aluminium free baking soda, giving me 9000 mgs. Later in the day I take another scoop of cardio c and 2 scoops Sodium Ascorbate.=20

Thats another 4500 mgs 13,500 mgs so far no side effect accept for the gas which the baking soda seems to help somewhat. Next week I'll bump it to 15,000 and continue till I reach 20,000 mgs for theraputic dosage, the pushing my heart to force it to find a way to increase blood flow probably won't be noticeable for a couple of months. When that happens I drop back to 12,000mgs for maintenance dosage. If I get that far...lol.

The dizziness continues sometimes worse than other times, but usually limited to getting up.

I'm putting together a presentation with a progress daily log to give a talk to the old people at the home here. I went in and told them how to control their diabetes. Many of them still cling to their doctors advice as gospel. I can "dispel" that for those who's doctors have given up on them, and there is a lot of those around.

I fully expect this to take off as there are many like me who's doctors made mistakes that they have to live with....or die with. Heart Doctors get to bury their mistakes.

If this works for me, you better ramp up production because I plan to sell a truck load....LOL.

Thanks for keeping in Touch. I have an appointment with a Heart Specialist at UA in Little Rock. I'm getting a 2nd opinion, I would assume the "film" of my last procedure will likely disappear when I request it. But, if the doctor screwed up I certainly don't want him doing any more procedures on m e. In light of his suggestion of the only way to handle my situation is for me to come in every 6 months and "get cleaned out" is not encouraging to m e in the least. I think he missed the blockage last time, or maybe more than one. I can't believe that everything went clogged in 14 months after the last procedure, UNLESS that was the plan....

Thanks
TOM



I like your dosage and method of taking vitamin C, and would be curious as to what your tolerance might be. (There are a few of us who can take 30,000 without any known problems.)

Another option if you don't want to risk the "tolerance test" is to add some liposomal vitamin C.

A question came up at the forum - do you have diabetes? Also, are you taking CoQ10?

I don't think they missed a blockage, from what I think I know, restenosis can develop very rapidly in arteries that have been stented. Sad but true.
Owen R. Fonorow
HeartCURE.Info
American Scientist's Invention Could Prevent 350,000 Heart Bypass Operations a year

ofonorow
Ascorbate Wizard
Ascorbate Wizard
Posts: 15822
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:16 pm
Location: Lisle, IL
Contact:

Re: Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#9  Post by ofonorow » Tue May 31, 2011 6:10 am


I'm at around 10,500 its close to my limit so far. I'm going to try and take it twice a day to up my max. Its problamatic above that but the baking soda helps. I was taking Coq10 but the real about was hidden in the labeling...lots of Vit E only 40mg of Coq10. I know the best dosage for me now is 1200 mgs of CoQ10 per day. I'll get that going this week.

Blood pressure is stable but not fluxiuating the way it was. 148/88 I guess everything just settled down. I'm trying to get back to my stationary bike. I am taking Commiphera Mukul its from India. I ground it up and put it in capsules, its contained in a lot of heart medications but in really SMALL dosages...its very expensive. Cost me $75 for 1/2lb of raw herb. That's a lot for herbs. Its been around for centuries so what the hell...its not like it will hurt me.

On my way to the heart specialist at UA of Arkansas. These people know what their doing, in Hot Springs its like your cattle and being herded. Doctors for the most part don't instill confidence around here.

The comment of "....the tissue is dying and I won't be far behind was unsettling. My heart functions are still fine, so maybe I can buy time for the heart to build me a new artery. It appears my heart by itself is in good shape no problems, good functioning no apparent damage from the 3 MI's I had in the past.

The rest of me is broken up, two steel hips, severed achillis tendon (the surgery didn't take and it tore at the repair site), severed superspanatis tendon in left shoulder, right shoulder repaired, 5 gun shot wounds, and my spine fractured in 6 places. BUT, my heart seems good no damage or scar tissue. I'm sure the 5 oxycoden evey moring isn't good for me, but for now I have to have it just to get going in the am.

I'll be trying to up the dosage a little everyday. MY goal is 10,000 mgs TWICE a day until we get this mess under control. I found the baking soda and a pinch of stevia helps with the taste, slippery elm, ginger, physillium husks helps with the diarehea and gas.

Thanks again so much for helping me with this. I'm looking foreward to going out and making saving people from heart disease my new Crusade...I have the time, you have the product...and there is no shortage of people who need=
help

TOM



The physillium husk (fiber) triggered an old memory. Fellow was taking a lot of one of our products - with little relief. Actually, he was getting relief, but then it stopped. It turns out he began taking fiber at the same time (which apparently can grab some of the ingredients and prevent them from being absorbed.) When he started taking the vitamin C/lysine product away from the fiber, his results improved dramatically.
Owen R. Fonorow
HeartCURE.Info
American Scientist's Invention Could Prevent 350,000 Heart Bypass Operations a year

ofonorow
Ascorbate Wizard
Ascorbate Wizard
Posts: 15822
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:16 pm
Location: Lisle, IL
Contact:

Re: Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#10  Post by ofonorow » Tue May 31, 2011 6:35 am


FYI my diabetes is type 2 and mostly controlled by diet and herbs. AIC usually around 6.2 to a max of 6.8. Your heart doctor mentioned that tissue wou ld die and I wouldn't be far behind... not encouraging at all.

I got 5 stents in 2006 after a major heart attack, then 2 more in a procedure January 2010. Then, 1 stent and a balloon to unclog a stent its then theysaid my Right artery was 100% clogged, and nothing they could do about it. I had to just live with it, and come in every 6 months to get unclogged....not encouraging.

Is this just a wasted effort and I just need to get my affairs in order. Both my regular doctor, my "questionable" heart specialist say that its not uncommon for someone to lead a normal life with the right artery 100% blocked. What's your opinion ? This wasn't really good news....LOL

I feel pretty good, rode my motorcycle for 4 hours the other day without any "events". I can walk around a store for hours as long as I have a shopping cart to lean on but that's due to pain not shortness of breath. Shortness of breath comes from walking up the stairs mostly.

As I sit here I feel fine, BP is 148/85 pluse is 84. Its creeping back up so I'm increase my heart medications a little I probably cut it back too far, too quickly. There was an improvement and I had to drop my meds dosage, but now I have to go back up.

My neighbor is 75 and has had the lower half of his heart dead for a decade... he is very active. Recently he had a problem and they put him in a induced coma for 9 days. When he came out, he has the same symptoms as me now. Dizziness and shortness of breath. He did fine for a long time with only half a heart...now its catching up to him it seems.

I guess I'll just have to wait and see what the new heart specialist says. My ECG showed normal heart functions with the exception of a small area around the clogged area, which he said was normal...whatever that means.

I'm glad to hear I was wasting my time on the wrong Niacin, I guess I'll get the regular stuff and just work it up to 2000 mgs a day.

What are your thoughts...would I need an open heart surgery to fix the clogg and then keep up with the Vit C ? Or wait and see if the heart makes a collateral line to compensate, I don't want to wait until the heart is totally messed up before doing something. I cannot get anyone to seem to agree ona course of action...waiting around isn't the way I do things.

Is there a better one of your products that I should be on. It appears I'm not going to get a second chance on getting this right so I have to do it right from the start or accept that I am going to die, per your heart specialist on the forum. It too bad there is nothing I have missed in life, so passing will be without regretts...LOL. I've been a combat soldier, a cowboy and loved more beautiful women that any man had a right to....so I'll put up a good fight, but when all is said and done...I'm ready.

I upped the Cardio-C to 3 scoops and 8000 mgs of Sodium Ascorbate per day That should be around 15,500 mgs, then maybe I'll add another scoop of Cardio C before bedtimes.

How much is a scoop of Cardio C, 1 tsp ???? 1tsp of Sodium Ascorbate is 4000 mgs. Sodium is easier on my stomach in large doses than the Asorbic is.Blending them eases the gas and diarehea. I add 1/4 Tsp of aluminum free baking soda and that seems to help too.

Thanks for all your help, I was looking forward to helping others but the way your heart doctor on the forum sounds, that's not likely to happen as I'm in a waiting mode.... "At 100% blockage blood is completely stopped and tissue is dying and your not far behind"

Can I buy what I need from you in bulk, its bound to be cheaper and a lot less trouble than all the crap I'm mixing. What do you do about the ingredients becoming hard after opening ?

Is there a better product from you that would serve my situation better ? It looks like I'm taking "now" over 15,000 mgs a day. That should be enough or what do you think ?


I cannot speak for johnwen - it sounded like he is skeptical of these "100% blockage reports." (Also while I am thinking of it, perhaps your 75 year-old friend might now be willing to split some costs with you? Sounds like he could now use the Pauling therapy too.)

Diabetes adds a complication - it generally means your cellular membranes have been or are "disturbed" to the point that glucose can not easily pass through from the blood into cells. This disturbance also impacts vitamin C, as both glucose and vitamin C share an insulin mediated transport through the cell membrane. (If glucose isn't penetrating (thus raising blood levels) then vitamin C certainly isn't penetrating into cells either - much shorter half-life.)

You say that you are controlling your Type II - hopefully with the same methods as Thomas Smith - healingmatters.com - i.e., by completely avoiding trans fats. Correct? If you haven't read Smith, start with http://healingmatters.com/deception.htm

Lowering blood sugar in this way promotes the effectiveness of vitamin C for CVD, but uncontrolled Type II diabetes would explain the fast restenonsis (plaque regrowth).

Advice? Bypass operations have saved (extended) many lives, but you have how many, 7 stents now? How many of those stents would be replaced? Usually they use weaker veins to replace the arteries, so it is a crap shoot.

If it were me, I would follow Smith and eliminate Type II - if not following his advice already.

I'd give high dosage vitamin C/lysine six months to improve the situation. (I would also be taking vitamin K1 and K2 - you may have already mentioned it.)

I'd study the methods discussed in the forum to make your own liposomal sodium ascorbate, and add liposomal vitamin C to the mix, over and above what you are now taking.

The diabetes indicates that one supplement you should be taking is Alpha Lipoic Acid (600 mg is recommended daily for diabetics) and it seems to help disturbed cells uptake glucose (and vitamin C).

There are risks to any procedure, but perhaps a better picture would emerge after six months?

Other products have more ingredients. If I could afford it, I'd probably want everything in the ASCORSINE-9 product.

Owen R. Fonorow
HeartCURE.Info
American Scientist's Invention Could Prevent 350,000 Heart Bypass Operations a year

Johnwen
Ascorbate Wizard
Ascorbate Wizard
Posts: 2152
Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:27 pm
Contact:

Re: Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#11  Post by Johnwen » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:43 pm

Is there a better one of your products that I should be on. It appears I'm not going to get a second chance on getting this right so I have to do it right from the start or accept that I am going to die, per your heart specialist on the forum.


First and foremost a Positive attitude must be maintained!! Having a fatalist attitude at this point will only hamper any progress your making or will achieve. As well as those who will benefit from your knowledge. It’s obvious to me with what you have been through the, “Big Guy,” kept you here for a purpose and I believe it wouldn’t be a good choice to tell him you don’t feel like doing it.
Back to your situation, I’ve counted 7 stents from your previous posts if they were placed in the same vessel. You own what is termed a “Full Metal Jacket!” this would explain your doctors lack of interest at this point since he’s at the end of what the guidelines recommend. This was more of a problem prior to Poison I mean Drug eluding stents. They would place a stent in a stenosis (clog) and it would stay open then the plaque would start regrowing on the ends of the stent and start to clog up again (restenosis) so they would go back again and place another stent next to the other stent to open it up and on it goes right down the line. Never really fixing the problem. When they run out of artery they start back stepping and referring you out to other doctors or specialist in that field to figure out how to burn or destroy the artery or cut you open and bypass the mess. With the drug stents it takes 3 to 5 years so there buying more time by killing the tissue as they go along. The causes of this brake down are covered all over this forum as while as the other problems that arise from it. Your on the right track and bear in mind. “And ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.” In your case it may take two pounds but there is light at the end of the tunnel it just going to take time to get there, especially since there has been other obstacles added to the mix along the way. Be patient and persistent and don’t be discouraged by minor pitfalls.
To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is
research!

ofonorow
Ascorbate Wizard
Ascorbate Wizard
Posts: 15822
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:16 pm
Location: Lisle, IL
Contact:

Re: Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#12  Post by ofonorow » Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:28 am

Went to the UA specialist he said my functions were good and EKG normal. He wants me back on Beta Blockers with Lorsartan.

I'll check out the Diabetes information. I've got it under control and alwa ys have since I discoverd it in 1998. My A1c is always under 7. No symptoms yet, unless I eat ice cream...but since starting on the Vit C the blood su gar has been a lot more forgiving than before.

I'll check it out and adjust my life style accordingly

Thanks

FYI

Since starting with the Vit C protocol I have noticed my blood sugar stays normal. I can eat ice cream and it rarely goes about 145. then back to around 110. Something is happening to my body and its related to the Vit C. My Diabetes symptom of nightly urination of 4-6 times usually every two hours is now only once or twice...and its no longer dependent on what I eat. I can eat a bag of popcorn before going to bed.... with no problems now.

I don't know WHY its happening, but a lot of things are changing with me physically. This new specialist is going to look at my last procedure film. He says his team is very capable of opening up previously clogged arteries. Depending on the film, and a stress test he's doing next month, he'll decide whether or not to try and open it up.

He said obviously the heart has established collateral veins now to take upthe slack as my heart functions are normal as is todays EKG...It was encouraging, he's not like my old doctor at all. He said there is no definitive evidence against or for Vit C, but there is no harm in trying it...

I found at 10,500 mgs of Vit C I get diarrhea, so I'm going to break it into two 7500 mgs doses one in the am and one at night. See what happens with that.

I'm going to stay with what I'm doing except changing to a Beta Blocker as he said it would make me live longer...I'll see how it works compared with what I'm on, My BP was 117/65 in his office this morning after walking 1/4 to his building from the parking lots. I could walk further, but my new hip=
is not healing right, its not that I get out of breath, its the pain. So that's a good thing too.

How do you keep the powder from hardening up like a rock after opening ???

Thanks



Keep unopened jars in freezer. Close jar immediately and keep desiccants in the jar. The new smaller jar (less air) with 3 desiccants (Cardio-C) seems to keep the powder fresh all month!
Owen R. Fonorow
HeartCURE.Info
American Scientist's Invention Could Prevent 350,000 Heart Bypass Operations a year

ofonorow
Ascorbate Wizard
Ascorbate Wizard
Posts: 15822
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:16 pm
Location: Lisle, IL
Contact:

Re: Disabled Vet/Herbalist with 100% Blocked Artery

Post Number:#13  Post by ofonorow » Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:32 am

Went to the forum and still can't get in.

I have Sodium Ascorbate Vit C is that the same as suggested on the forum ?

I take Alpha Lipoic Acid w/Acetyl L-Carnitine and L-Citrulline to help the arteries and amino acid absorption.

There were some really interesting comments on the forum today. The one that said if I didn't have collaterals working I'd already be in line for a by-pass...that was ecouraging.

The new heart doctor I saw today agreed that the heart was getting an extra supply of blood from "somewhere" as my heart functions were still good. He wants to do a chemical stress test next month and look at the film of the procedure I just had. Its my opinion that "someone" screwed up and somehow the RT artery got plugged up 100%. The new symptoms after the procedure, the demenor of the doctor, and the lame explanation of why I got dizzy and developed shortness of breath all lead to a CYA that was painfully obvious.

There was also a marked absense of the doctor who did the procedure (my regular heart doctors associate) after the procedure....he didn't come around like he had everyday for the 4 days he kept me waiting in the hospital for the procedure. When it was done, he just discharged me, and I never saw him again. I only heard about the 100% blockage 2 weeks later at a follow up visit. They tried to blame the shortness of breath and dizziness on my heart medications, then he said it was my diabetes...not the blockage. That's when I scheduled for a 2nd opinion at UA Medical in Little Rock.

I can handle 5000-7500 mgs of Cardio-C with not too much trouble. After that its lots of gas and diarehea. I'm matching Cardio-C with Sodium Ascorbate , a pinch of "stevita" to kill the salt taste, and another pinch of baking soda. Thats 15,000 mgs at least per day in two doses one am one pm.

I've added Tumeric back into the mix now that its been mentioned I must control my diabetes better to get better absorbtion of the Vit-C.

This would have been so much easier if I'd done some Vit C prevention a decade ago.

The new Cardiologist said he would look at the films and depending on how t hings looked he MIGHT try and open the blockage. He said his team was excellent at doing what others sometimes deemed impossible. That was encouraging.

I have already almost used up my first jar of Cardio-C. There is no doubt in my mind that there are changes taking place in my body largely due to the Cardio-C. Its also had a favorable effect on my diabetes too. Much easier to control now, less frequent urination at night, faster recovery from after eating highs back to normal blood sugar.

We'll see how it all plays out. I sure like your powder a lot more than taking all those nasty capsules.

Owen R. Fonorow
HeartCURE.Info
American Scientist's Invention Could Prevent 350,000 Heart Bypass Operations a year


Return to “Heart Disease: Linus Pauling's Vitamin C/Lysine Therapy”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 67 guests